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Here are some letters from some of our
satisfied customers:
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:58:21 -0700
From: "KELLY HYDOSKI" <khydoski@UCSD.Edu>
Subject: Premier & Gentle Leader Collars
Mahdi's new collars from DeJa'Vue came in the mail this
week ( thanks for
the prompt service Rose!).
I ordered a Premier collar because mahdi was backing out
of her buckle
collar and her neck size kept changing. A great side
benefit is the ease
of getting it on her. All I have to do is slip it over
her head, no
struggling while I get it buckled.
Mahdi also got a Gentle Leader ( promise collar). I had
been using a Halti
but it was leaving a mark on her nose because she would
drag her face across
the grass to try to get it off. I tried moleskin on the
band but she really
hated that collar. The Gentle leader does not have such a
stiff, structured
design and it fits differently across the nose. After the
first few minutes
she got used to it and walked like an angel. I even took
her to the vets
with it and she sat and behaved like a lady while he
trimmed her nails. No
rearing up and trying to back out of the office. I took
the girls to the
beach and usually they drag me all the way down to the
water. The Gentle
Leader works so well a two year old could walk my 85#
beast.
I have to say when I saw these collars mentioned on the
list and when
everyone recommended the premier after mahdi escaped at
Petsmart, I had
trouble imagining what they looked like. I also wasn't
too sure that she
would take to the no pull collar after my experience with
the halti.
Thankyou to everyone who recommended tham to me. Rose has
all the colors
and donates a portion to rescue so if you have been
thinking about ordering
one.........(the preceding is an unpaid endorsement
<G>)
kelly & mahdi
http://geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/3796
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:57:58 EDT
From: <JKMahone@aol.com>
Subject: Premier Collars
After all the discussion on the list, I ordered a few
Premier collars from
DeJa'Vue and they arrived this week. (I'll second the
previous post on the
great service, Rose, thanks!) We really like the way they
work, as Star is
quite adept at putting on her brakes and slipping out of
her other collars.
She tried it when she had her new Premier collar on and
was quite surprised to
find that she and the collar were still attached to me
and the leash. (A side
benefit is the great color choices -- so much more
appealing than the usual
pet store red-green-black-blue.)
Joan
http://www.geocities.com/~starchase
coordinator, RRED rescue committee:
http://www.flash.net/~alash/rred/index.html
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:31:02 -0000
From: "Nedra Garrick" <garridge@open.org>
Subject: Gentle Leader
Rose,
The Gentle Leaders are a life saver. I have dreaded
walking my two girls at
the same time for a while, I'm not getting any younger OR
stronger. It's such a
pleasure now to take them out together and show them off.
No more being
pulled east and west at the same time!
I like having a large choice of colors too, people seem
to be less likely to
think they are muzzles.
Thank you so much for the quick shipment, and especially
for your
contribution to RR rescue.
Nedra
Kylie, Polly & Rusty
Salem, Or.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:50:04 -0500
To: cballiet@bigplanet.com
From: Rose Bednarski <dejavueh@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Gentle Leader for Vali someday?
>Hi Rose,
>It's me, Carol, and I just read your post about
Gentle Leaders and how
>they should be custom-fit and all. So here's my
question: I'm working
>(once a day for 5 - 10 minutes so far) with the Vali
Girl getting her
>used to a plain 6' lead and hoping (assuming) that
she will walk well on
>a plain lead with buckle collar by the time she's
full grown. Now,
>Sunny, my 90-pounder, who never had lead training
when he lived with me
>on the rez in New Mexico, has done pretty well with
lead and flat collar
>here in a city neighborhood. I don't think I need a
GL with him, but I
>want to go the distance with Vali -- lure coursing,
take her everywhere
>where I really need control such as shows, etc. And
somday I'd like to
>work her in obedience -- so I want her to get
polished up on leash
>skills sooner or later anyway.
>
>So can dogs graduate from a GL to a regular lead?
Should I get one
>"just in case"? If I ever do get one, do
you explain how to measure the
>dog's head to get the right size? (What else can I
ask?)
>
>Thanks for the info!
>Carol
Hey Carol!
Sounds like you are taking the right steps
in teaching Vali on leash walking. Some RR never need a
GL, some do.
Mugabe doesn't wear one, but I have almost total control
on him on lead (he
does wear a Premier collar). We went lure coursing today
(his first
trial), he wasn't wearing one. BUT- his lightbulb is
slowing getting
bright & he is learning that lure coursing is fun. If
he does stop bouncing next
to me as he walks & decides to pull me to the line, I
will put a GL on him!
And many of the RR DID wear GL as they walked around
& when taken to the
line. It does make a difference in control.
A dog can easily switch from a GL to a regular collar.
One of the
differences between the Halti & the Gentle Leader is
just that. A Halti is
always a headcollar. You can't change the appearence. The
Gentle leader
is a collar (around the neck) with a attached slip loop
that goes around
the muzzle & after the dog learns not to pull, the
loop is slipped off the
nose and the dog has a regular collar again. If they
forget, or need that
extra contol, the loop is again pulled over the nose.
A Gentle Leader comes in simples sizes of petite, small,
medium, large,
extra large. Most RR fit into a large, because of the
large neck. Some of
the very petite RR do fit into a medium. They are
adjustable. What many
people do is have their RR wear both a Premier (or a
regular collar) &
their GL at the same time. The GL doesn't have a place to
hang the ID tags
& for extra safety when walking.
I would suggest you get one for Vali, if you think she
will be a normal(?)
Ridgeback that will be excited to lure course. Also it
will help with her
heeling. It will teach her to be next to you, not ahead
or behind. She
would not wear a GL for tracking or agility- since these
allow almost total
freedom for the dog.
I don't think a dog is ever too young to start wearing
one, that is after
they learn what a leash is & how to walk, not fight
it! I have never seen
a age limit on them. Premier really believes in their
Gentle Leader & have
recommendations from leading professionals worldwide.
They make the Gentle
Leaders in 10 different colors and different sizes, a
training
booklet, tee shirts promoting the GL, a 10ft. indoor
remote control cord,
and a 13 minute video. I don't carry the extra stuff
available, but I can
order them if you are interested in any of it.
I think I sorta covered the general outline of the Gentle
Leader & answered
your questions. Feel free to ask any more as you think of
them!
Rose
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:14:55 -0400
From: "Debbie Mitchell"
<dmitchell@intcom.net>
Subject: Gentle Leaders
I too recently received new collars for my two - one is a
solid and one is
kaliedescopee - Vineyard I think - it looks most handsome
on our boy! He is
most proud of himself! I will always order my collars and
leashes from Rose
in the future - we seem to go through collars rather
quickly -
Thanks from me too Rose - Deb
From: Rrkinga@aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:30:12 EDT
To: dejavueh@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Gentle Leader Support Group
I've been using the Gentle Leader on my Rhodesian
Ridgeback on-and-off for
almost 3 years. I had used a prong collar in the past,
but he could still
pull with that on. Plus, I didn't like the idea of the
prongs digging into
his neck.
The Gentle Leader doesn't hurt his neck at all, and it
gives me much better
control over this strong dog! When he's wearing his
Gentle Leader, our walks
are much more relaxed and enjoyable. And when we walk
into the kennel club or
the vet's office, he isn't pulling and straining at the
end of the leash -
he's walking like a well-behaved dog!
I started using a Gentle Leader when I went lure coursing
with my dog. He
LOVES to course and gets EXTREMELY excited. Twice he has
pulled me down and
dragged me to the starting line! I didn't want to get
injured, so I started
using his Gentle Leader to take him to the line. Now I
can walk to the line
relatively calmly without him straining and choking
himself the entire way!
The Gentle Leader is a very different feel for the dogs
and they should be
introduced to it slowly and with lots of treats! My dog
will try to rub it
off for the first minute he has it on, so I tell him
"no rub!" I've found the
best thing is to slowly introduce it to the dog and
distract him with treats
or toys while he is wearing it. In time the dogs get used
to the different
feel and they accept the Gentle Leader very nicely.
My dog's Gentle Leader doesn't have his tags attached to
it, so he wears both
collars when we are out in public. As a safety
precaution, I hook the leash
to both the Gentle Leader and his regular collar. I've
seen dogs slip the
nose strap of the Gentle Leader off (because the owners
didn't fit it
correctly!) but in that case the neck strap would still
be on and hooked to
the leash so the dog couldn't get away.
I feel the Gentle Leader is the safest collar for my dog
to wear. I teach
puppy classes at our kennel club and always encourage the
puppy owners to get
a Gentle Leader. Puppies are sometimes too young to
understand how to walk
calmly - they're so easily distracted! But some of the
puppies are large
breed, strong dogs who need to be under control. And with
a Gentle Leader,
even children can safely walk these big dogs!
Gail and Kinga
From: MelanieOwl@aol.com
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:44:45 EDT
To: dejavueh@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Jerky Treats
We recently ordered the teriyaki beef jerky treats from
Rose at DeJa'Vue
Canine Enterprises and our two ridgebacks really love
them! They make great
training treats, since they are bits of jerky rather than
strips. And 10% of
the cost goes to ridgeback rescue! You can read about
them at
http://pw2.netcom.com/~dejavueh/index.html
Melanie B., Red and Molly
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:53:28 -0400
From: Monique McIlhenney
<kennebec@mail.atl.bellsouth.net>
Subject: Gentle Leader order
I just received my order from DejaVu. The service was
excellent and
prompt. And what is specially fine is that 10% goes to
rescue! The
colors on the kaleisdocope collars and leashes are great.
Thanks Rose
Monique
From: "KELLY HYDOSKI"
<khydoski@ucsd.edu>
To: "Rose Bednarski"
<dejavueh@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: thanks
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:53:24 -0700
A testimonial page would be a good idea. I don't mind if
you post it with
my address or not. It is interesting that I have been
trying to see a
gentle leader in person for 5 months now and never seen
one. I go to a lot
of matches & dog places. Everyone talks about them
though. My vet wants to
order one so I'll bring your www address to the office
when I go in next
week. He said he hadn't seen on in so long he had
forgotten about them.
He's very big in the local rottie rescue effort. And he
has a soft spot for
rr's.
kelly
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:25:51 -0500
From: Carol Balliet <cballiet@bigplanet.com>
To: dejavueh@ix.netcom.com
Subject: The nose knows..great food treats
To Rose of DejaVue:
With all the recent discussion on the post about methods
of dog training
and use of treats, I just wanted you to know that The
World's Best
Treats for that special dog occasion were delivered today
at my
doorstep. This is the second time I've ordered the
teriyaki beef and
variety of biscuits from DejaVue, and Sunny (my now-slim
and trim r.r.)
was in heaven. Ears forward and brow all furrowed -- he
would have
followed any command to get what he knew was in the box.
So now I've stockpiled your special goodies and am
eagerly awaiting the
arrival of my new puppy (from Sun Gatto's gorgeous litter
) to introduce
her to the Joy of Obedience! And I like knowing that part
of the
revenue from my order goes toward r.r. rescue work.
(If anyone is wondering if I've tried these treats
myself, the answer is
you bet!)
Carol Balliet
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 21:27:55 -0600
From: Ross Jones <cimarron@abq.com>
Subject: Re: RR-FOLK: Gentle Leader
Nedra wrote:
>The Gentle Leaders are a life saver. I have dreaded
walking my two girls at
>the same time for a while,
>
Which reminds me to ask: Can a dog back out of a Gentle
Leader?...a Halti?
I'm thinking of one to walk Cheyenne to the line for Lure
Coursing (poor
thing walks the entire way on her hind feet gasping for
breath and that's
with a 3" wide firm leather neck piece which can't
roll). But she does back
up...alot!!
Cherie Starr
Cimarron
Albuquerque New Mexico USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:57:15 -0000
From: "Nedra Garrick" <garridge@open.org>
Subject: Re: RR-FOLK: Gentle Leader
Cherie wrote:
:Which reminds me to ask: Can a dog back out of a Gentle
Leader?...a Halti?
:
:I'm thinking of one to walk Cheyenne to the line for
Lure Coursing (poor
:thing walks the entire way on her hind feet gasping for
breath and that's
:with a 3" wide firm leather neck piece which can't
roll). But she does back
:up...alot!!
:
No, they can't back out of it.....BUT, I don't think I'd
use one for
coursing.
Kylie also goes to the line in that fashion! Through the
years I have tried
a Halti, (she could just "tilt" her head out of
it), a no-pull harness, (she
rubbed the inside of her front legs raw), holding her
lead in one hand and
her ear in the other (that works ok but I hate doing it
and she can still
throw me)
I think that these dogs that are so "bunny
crazy" could hurt themselves
badly without even knowing it, they are SO focused on
where they are going
and what they are going to do. I just feel that the
lunging, jumping and
twisting -with a purpose- isn't the atmosphere the Gentle
Leader was meant
for.
Besides, isn't the anticipation one of the fun parts of
any enjoyable
activity? ;-}
I've finally decided to lean back as far as I can, and
HANG ON.
My .02.
Nedra
Kylie, Polly & Rusty
Salem, Or.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 05:52:36 EDT
From: Rrkinga@aol.com
Subject: Re: RR-FOLK: Gentle Leader
<< Which reminds me to ask: Can a dog back out of a
Gentle Leader?...a Halti?
I'm thinking of one to walk Cheyenne to the line for Lure
Coursing (poor
thing walks the entire way on her hind feet gasping for
breath and that's
with a 3" wide firm leather neck piece which can't
roll). But she does back
up...alot!! >>
Cherie: As long as the strap around the neck is snug, I
don't think a dog
could ever back out of a gentle leader. If the nose strap
is too loose, I've
seen dogs slip this off, but then they are still attached
to the leash by the
neck strap.
I ALWAYS use a gentle leader to walk Kinga to and from
the line at coursing
(and he often stops suddenly and pulls backwards). Unless
my husband is along
to carry him, that's the only way I can control him by
myself! I don't like
to see the dogs gasping for breath on the way to the line
because that's
limiting their oxygen and their muscles need that oxygen
to run.
So, yes, try a gentle leader. I think you will be amazed
at the amount of
control you have with it. And don't forget to order it
from our list member,
Rose, so rescue benefits too!
Gail and Kinga
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 07:35:54 -0400
From: Bonnie Johnson <bjohnson@ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: RR-FOLK: Gentle Leader
Hi Cherie,
My girl Nadra, who is definately the most driven lure
coursing fool in my
house,
started pulling so hard at coursing a year or so ago that
she would faint.
Very
stressful thing to have you dog collapse on the way to
the field! So I
used the
promise halti, which I think is the same thing as the
gentle leader, to
walk her
to the line while leaving her slip lead on her neck. That
way I could have the
slip lead ready to go and just drop the halti. Worked
like a charm. I would
try it using both.
Bonnie Johnson
Shabani
Ross Jones wrote:
> Nedra wrote:
>
> >The Gentle Leaders are a life saver. I have
dreaded walking my two girls at
> >the same time for a while,
> >
> Which reminds me to ask: Can a dog back out of a
Gentle Leader?...a Halti?
>
> I'm thinking of one to walk Cheyenne to the line for
Lure Coursing (poor
> thing walks the entire way on her hind feet gasping
for breath and that's
> with a 3" wide firm leather neck piece which
can't roll). But she does back
> up...alot!!
>
> Cherie Starr
> Cimarron
> Albuquerque New Mexico USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:54:42 -0500
From: Rose Bednarski <dejavueh@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RR-FOLK: Re: Gentle Leader
Just to clear up a confusion here. The
"Promise" headhalter is now called
"Gentle Leader". Premier Pet Products is the
manufacturer. The Halti is a
different head collar made by Safari Pet Products. These
are 2 different
types of headware. The Halti can be purchased almost
anywhere. The Gentle
Leader can only be purchased from Premier distributors,
veterinarians,
trainers & adoption organizations. The reason for
this is because of the
extreme importance of a proper fit & instructions,
these people would be
available "hands on" training with use of the
Gentle Leader if needed.
(Of course I cannot do "hands on" training with
everyone here on the
newsgroup. But what I am developing is a "support
group" of Ridgeback
owners who do use the Gentle Leader on their dogs. Also
with the Premier
collars if anyone needs help or questions.)
Rose & her boys
From: thartzel@stat.ufl.edu
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:54:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RR-FOLK: RTF
Hi All-
I just placed and recieved (FAST service) and order from
DeJa'Vue Hounds
(owned by our own Rose Bednarski). I actually ordered
from her because of
her policy to send 10% of the profits to RRCUS and now 5%
to RFT. What a
great way to get the products you need and still help
other RR's. If you
haven't had a chance check out:
http://pw2.netcom.com/~dejavueh/index.html
By the way, I am not affliated with her company or
getting any $$ for this.
Just the RR's in need getting extra help, and me getting
products I needed
anyway.
Traci, Riley (I got nothing, that dumb puppy got it.) ,
Kendi (one thing was for my birthday) and
Bakara (the rest was for me)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:43:20 -0500
From: "Dieneke Heerema"
<dieneke1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RR-FOLK: Promise Gentle Leader Headcollar
First, Thanks to Rose for prompt friendly service! And
when she says Blaze
Orange, she *means* BLAZE!
Second, am trying to follow directions for fitting and
acclimating Jessi to
the GL - short periods in the house, easy, short walks,
etc. She is showing
some resistance to it yet, still pawing at it after 3
days of on and off
wearing. By my interpretation of the instructions, it is
properly fitted.
Could I get some feedback from those with Gentle Leader
experience?? Also
have a couple of folk inquiring about it for their dogs,
so I won't trim it
to fit Jessi until they've had a chance to try it. One
testee will be an
Akita. Jessi is *very* responsive to the halter when on a
leash, which is
part of what I was looking for so my Mom - not rock-solid
on her feet - can
walk her, not go for a drag.
Thanks, too, Rose, for your extra donation to RTF over
and above your
regular rescue funding!
Dieneke & Jessi (get this thing off my nose!)
A Counting Hou$e
dieneke1@bellsouth.net
(954) 782-4582
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:53:10 EST
From: MelanieOwl@aol.com
Subject: RR-FOLK: Thanksgiving Treats
I recently ordered biscuits, jerky, and two Gentle Leader
collars for my two
dogs from Rose at DeJa'Vue Enterprises. The dogs love
these treats made fresh
and from natural ingredients! Also, 10% of my order's
cost went to ridgeback
rescue and another 5% when to the RTF. The collars are so
far not as popular
as the treats, although Red is starting to get used to
his and it really works
to prevent pulling in a more gentle way than using a
prong. Red tends to pull
only when we are going to one of his classes, such as
agility or obedience,
where he has lots of doggy friends and people friends who
give him treats.
Molly is the one who really needs a Gentle Leader, but we
haven't tried hers
on her yet.
It is almost holiday time, so you might want to try out
some of Rose's treats
for Christmastime. You can see her online catalog at
http://pw2.netcom.com/~dejavueh/index.html
And I am just a satisfied customer...
Melanie B., Red, Molly and Hannah
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:19:18 EST
From: JKMahone@aol.com
Subject: RR-FOLK: Premier Collars, Etc. - and Rescue
Donation
This may be a shameless promotion of one of our
listmembers, however....
I've seen the Premier Collars some of us like so much
beginning to appear in
some of the dog supplies catalogs I get, but no one has
the combined size and
color range that Rose Bednarski has at DeJa Vue Canine
Enterprises
(http://pw2.netcom.com/~dejavueh/index.html), let alone
the contribution to
Rescue with your order. The gift baskets and teriyaki
beef jerky are wonderful
too. Since a portion of the order benefits Rescue, I can
accomplish two good
things at one time.
Joan
with Star (Mom, I need a new collar, that silly Chase
keeps chewing on mine)
&Chase (Mom, I need a new collar too -- I'm growing!)
http://www.geocities.com/~starchase
rescue contact, RRED
http://www.flash.net/~alash/rred/index.html
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:34:53 -0600
From: Carol Balliet <cballiet@bigplanet.com>
Subject: You're great!
Hi Rose,
Here I am, back in Austin after a kinda hectic two months
up in
Pittsburgh helping my daughter with her new baby. I
wanted you to know
how big a HIT some of your products made in my family
(both dog and
human...) over the holidays. First of all, those two
holiday baskets I
ordered, which you sent to two separate addresses, were
the perfect
touch to make our extended family of six dogs and their
parents feel
remembered while I was gone. Thank you so much for the
huge baskets
(which we kept for decorative purposes) and all those
goodies packed
inside them. They provided plenty of special treats to
pass out to
our canines for quickie rewards for good behavior-- not
to mention
something tasty to keep them from getting too interested
in my
grandchildren's toys! Please keep these baskets
available, as I'm sure
I'll be ordering more for holiday occasions this year.
And -- I'm so
glad you could send me the buttons of all the dogs, as
well as making
buttons of the faces of each of my four grandchildren!!
They were so
delighted to see their granny wearing their faces on her
dress -- every
day they were visiting!! I may have a reputation for
being an
eccentric grandma now, but I bet those kids will never
forget their
special buttons. And just watch me wear my buttons of my
beloved rr's
at the National Specialty next summer up in Colorado!!
Best regards,
Carol
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